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Speaker 1: those that are successful on LinkedIn treat it
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like a professional Instagram.
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I'm going to dig deep into the why and also provide you the
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data so that you can better understand this, take advantage
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of it and improve your visibility within LinkedIn.
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Speaker 2: So stay tuned for this next episode of the your
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Digital Marketing Coach podcast digital social media content,
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Whether you're a marketing professional, entrepreneur or
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First marketing, one episode at a time.
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This is your digital marketing coach and this is Neil Schafer.
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Speaker 1: Hey everybody, this is Neil Schafer, your digital
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marketing coach, and welcome to episode number 386 of my podcast
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.
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As always, I want to begin this episode with some of the latest
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news that I have been following that I recommend you check out
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as well.
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First of all, linkedin has actually launched a free AI
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certification course.
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This course covers foundational AI topics, practical
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applications and ethics, and really are suitable for all
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experience levels and can help you boost your career and
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professional opportunities.
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If you complete the course, you gain a LinkedIn certificate
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which can help increase visibility to employers and
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demonstrate your AI expertise.
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I really love the fact that LinkedIn is doing this and the
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source for all the information I share here.
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Please make sure you sign up to my newsletter at neilschafercom
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slash newsletter to get all the information.
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You can also Google it and find it, I'm sure as well, but this
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is really cool news and really shows that LinkedIn is on this
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mission.
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They are social media, but they also want to better equip its
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members with relevant digital skills.
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So kudos to LinkedIn and if you are still late to the AI game,
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you are never too late.
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Definitely check out those free AI certification courses.
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We also are seeing a new evolution in AI, of the use of
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AI to improve other AI models, a method known as AI to build AI.
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It's basically leveraging AI to optimize the large language
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models and the outputs of AI that we see around us language
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models and the outputs of AI that we see around us and it's
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really, really interesting because this leads to the
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potential that, well, this could be a self-improving AI
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explosion or it's AI in a bubble , right.
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So you know AI continues to evolve.
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There's no immediate action item or recommendation I have
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for you right now, but just understand the potential
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limitations of AI, that, yes, there are ways in which AI can
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improve itself and AI can help improve your business, but at
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the end of the day, at some point, especially if you're in a
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niche industry, it just might run out of content or ideas that
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are going to help you.
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So, very futuristic, look at AI very exciting, but also
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understand those potential limitations as well.
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Would be just want to plant that seed in your mind and then meta
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.
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So you know, back in the day when Facebook was extremely
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popular still is but you know we had the talk that Facebook was
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rivaling Google, and then we have TikTok come along, and then
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we have ChatGPT come along right.
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So meta is obviously they have a lot of conversations that they
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are able to leverage to develop their own AI and they have a
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chat bot.
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They have their own AI.
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Now they're reportedly developing a search engine for
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their chat bot.
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So the chat bot obviously you see in Facebook messenger as
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well as when you use AI on their website, but this could allow
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you to obviously within Facebook to more easily use AI when you
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use AI on their website.
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But this could allow you to obviously within Facebook, to
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more easily use AI when you publish content, but also be
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able to tap into that AI to search content.
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In other words, not leaving Facebook if you wanted to do a
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Google search or a chat GPT search.
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So really, really interesting development.
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I think social media back in the day was really all about
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eyeballs and making social media back in the day was really all
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about eyeballs and making sure you stay on the site as long as
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possible.
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And we're now beginning to evolve, with LinkedIn offering
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AI tool as part of their paid premium package and we see other
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networks also providing AI functionality in various formats
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and even the marketing tools that we use providing AI
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technology.
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We're now entering an age where it's not just time on site, but
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it's also the utilitarian aspect that we are all going to
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use AI throughout the day.
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Let our site be the place that you use that AI on.
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So, really, really interesting development.
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Once again, nothing that you should immediately be doing, but
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if you haven't checked out Meta AI, if you haven't spent time
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on Facebook recently, it is something you should immediately
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be doing.
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But if you haven't checked out Meta AI, if you haven't spent
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time on Facebook recently, it is something you should definitely
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check out just to understand its capabilities for the future.
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All right, so today I'm going to talk a little bit about
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LinkedIn.
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As you know, it's been about six weeks, but I published
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Maximizing LinkedIn for Business Growth.
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I'm currently working on expanding that book as we speak.
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Growth I'm currently working on expanding that book as we speak
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.
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But I want to share with you that every year, I remotely
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teach a class as part of a professional certification
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course at the Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania,
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and the class is geared towards financial sales professionals
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and their use of LinkedIn.
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So I teach it every year.
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It's usually in the fall.
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I'll be teaching it later this month and as part of it, and
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I've shared this with you on previous episodes.
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In fact, it was episode number 258.
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This is back in March of 2022.
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When I talked about the 10 areas of your LinkedIn profile where
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a majority of you are failing, this comes from the same data
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that I took as part of this course, because, as part of
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teaching the course, I audit the LinkedIn profiles of each
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participant based on my proprietary list of 20
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components to give everyone a score from one to 100.
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And I do plan to provide this audit to anyone.
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It will be for a fee because I'm going to put some skin in
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the game and really want to help you and spend time with you,
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but once my new store is open and I am building a store on
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Shopify to help distribute books as well as provide this types
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of coaching and consulting services and and audits so so
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stay tuned for that.
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But I've been teaching this class annually for several years
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and, while I do plan on talking again about those 10 areas
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where a majority of profiles are failing, actually this year it
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was 11 areas and the components and where people fail actually
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evolves over time, but that's going to be a subject for
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another episode, but this is the first year and I talk a little
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bit about this in Maximizing LinkedIn for Business Growth,
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which I believe the LinkedIn algorithm has significantly
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changed, even more than in previous years.
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So let me give you a feel for what I see, based on the data
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for my own posts.
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So these are the posts, or I should say the types of posts,
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which I got the most impressions for on a quarter by quarter
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basis.
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So let me take a step back.
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I am all about impressions.
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It may get a lot of clicks.
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It may not get a lot of clicks.
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If you read digital threads, you understand my view on
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platform authentic content.
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It's not necessarily about the clicks and we should be
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publishing more and more content .
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That isn't about the clicks.
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It's the link in bio approach to social media.
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I also want to say and preface this with the fact that I
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publish very regularly on LinkedIn.
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I want to say pretty much every day.
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There might be days where I publish twice.
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I don't publish on weekends anymore because I just don't get
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the visibility when I do.
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But I publish a variety of text , obviously a lot of links, and
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I think links has been the primary focus of my LinkedIn
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publishing.
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I publish images, I publish newsletters not as regularly as
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I would like to, but I do.
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I do live stream video.
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I also upload repurposed video from those live streams, so I
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definitely publish content in a lot of different formats and
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over time.
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It gives me really really good data to assess what is working
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and what is not, and it's been a while since I've done this, but
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I want to walk you through, quarter by quarter, the content
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that seems to do one.
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I think you're going to see, or I should say you're going to
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hear, some common threads here.
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So I'm going to go back to 2023 Q1, and I'm giving you the top
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three posts for those quarters in terms of impressions.
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So 2023 Q1, photo text photo.
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2023 Q2, newsletter newsletter photo.
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2023 Q3, newsletter newsletter newsletter.
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2023 Q4, newsletter live stream image.
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2024q1, photo live stream photo .
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The image is pretty much the same as a photo.
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Sorry about that.
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2024q2, live stream photo photo .
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2024q3, newsletter newsletter newsletter.
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All right, so let's break this down.
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I think the first, most important thing and the reason
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why I did this analysis, it was inspired by the audits that I
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did for this LinkedIn class and recently writing Maximizing
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LinkedIn for Business Growth.
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But every month, I take a look at my Google Analytics and one
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thing that I look for in my Google Analytics is which social
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networks are driving how much traffic and how many conversions
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.
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And, as you know, if you've been listening to this podcast,
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pinterest has really come back as the number one driver of
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traffic.
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It used to be Twitter.
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I think the usage of Twitter has really gone down over time,
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but interestingly enough, I found that Twitter in October of
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2024, actually I saw an increase, even though I am
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publishing less frequently there and I saw LinkedIn take a big
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drop and Facebook take an even bigger drop, to the point where
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I don't even know if it's worth publishing on Facebook anymore,
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in all honesty.
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But regardless, the big drop in LinkedIn I mean LinkedIn and
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Facebook combined do not equal what Twitter generated.
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So it just goes to show you you need to have this data driven
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approach and I really keep my social media usage on a tight
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leash because that ends up the creating content, the engaging,
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spending time in the sites can eat up a lot of time if you're
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not careful, right.
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So the number one thing here is that, probably on LinkedIn, half
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of the content that I publish is link-based, but it does not
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get impressions and I've been saying this for years.
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It's the whole reason why I wrote about platform authentic
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content in digital threads.
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You know, yes, pinterest, you can still get organic content.
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Twitter, yes, you can actually still get organic content.
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The data you know backs that up .
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Facebook it's been dead for a while.
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Linkedin it is dying pretty quickly and the reason is that
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if you see what those little images that appear when you
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share a link, those default little highlight images that
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LinkedIn will show, the size of that the vertical size of it
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really got hacked significantly to the point where it barely
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shows up in the feed compared to an image or what have you.
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So link-based content is pretty much dead on LinkedIn and I
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still publish it.
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There's still blog posts, podcast episodes, what have you,
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but I know it's just not going to get that traffic anymore.
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So I'm trying to shift as much away from it as possible.
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One way of shifting away from link-based content is to
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actually publish what you published in that link in the
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form of a newsletter.
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So I've been experimenting doing this and I used to
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republish my weekly email as a newsletter on LinkedIn.
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That was back in 2023.
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And you know, when I published it I didn't really see that much
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engagement, but now I know that newsletters have probably a
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longer shelf life than other content on LinkedIn and LinkedIn
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still prioritizes it.
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I thought newsletters were sort of dead, but apparently the
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newsletters I did in 2024, q3, and I think I only did three
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were my top three.
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So what I started doing 2023, like I said, I repurposed my
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email newsletters.
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2024, I would take one singular podcast episode and I would
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riff off of that episode and share that episode, including
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the YouTube video, because now I'm recording, if it's an
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interview, recording these on LinkedIn and on YouTube as well,
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and sharing that YouTube video as well for those that wanna see
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the whole thing.
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So, summarizing some of the nuggets from that podcast
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together with that YouTube embed and that has proven to be
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really, really successful to the point where well, why don't you
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take the concept?
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Because a newsletter is a misunderstanding in terms of its
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terminology on LinkedIn.
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A newsletter is what LinkedIn posts, what a LinkedIn blog post
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used to be.
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It's just that once you have, I believe you only need 100
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followers, but once you have that, if you create a newsletter
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, then you can regularly be publishing this and get
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subscribers and it gives sort of a taxonomy to what you're
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publishing.
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So you could have multiple newsletters if you cover
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different topics.
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I think that'd be a little bit crazy.
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But the concept of the newsletter is you are basically
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blogging on LinkedIn and it could be similar content to what
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you use on your website.
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You can try to lead people to your website through the
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newsletter, but once again, I think it's the link in bio
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approach of just keeping people on the site longer, having
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people consume more of your content, and I think that
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LinkedIn is seeing that.
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Hey, there are people that will engage with images, there are
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people that will watch videos.
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There's also people because it is a business site that will
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read longer form content in the form of a newsletter.
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So that, to me, was a really aha moment.
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That, okay, I really need to become a more regular producer
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of these newsletters because they are getting the visibility
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on LinkedIn that a link-based post will not get.
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So the other?
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Well, let's look at two more big takeaways, right?
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Another big takeaway is videos are not performing that well Now
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.
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I know that there are some people because on the LinkedIn
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app, there is now a dedicated video tab.
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If you haven't checked on the LinkedIn app, there is now a
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dedicated video tab.
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If you haven't checked out the LinkedIn app recently you should
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and the video tab.
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If you are able to get your video in, it can get massive
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amount of impressions.
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That has yet to happen with me.
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But on the other hand, if you look at the videos in the video
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tab, it's not the podcast interview content I've been
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doing.
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It's basically one person talking about one topic and
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there's almost like a format of successful content that you can
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see there.
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So video, I think, and even live streams.
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Now some of my live streams have gotten a lot of visibility.
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They didn't necessarily have a lot of people join it at the
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time, but because they had maybe a famous guest or because of
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the topic over time.
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Once again it has gotten visibility similar to the
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newsletter, but not, as I don't want to say viral, but not as
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high of visibility.
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But the other thing here and this goes back to the teaser
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when I started this podcast was the image, right, the photo, and
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this is where you know when I'm in my newsfeed I predominantly
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see images and when I do the audits of my students in this
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class at Wharton, there are clear discrepancies between
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engagement on images versus non-images, and I should also
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point out reposts don't really get you that many impressions.
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I do a bunch of reposts.
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I might even comment on it.
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A repost is really not for your benefit but for the benefit of
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the original creator of that content.
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So if I am a guest on a podcast and they publish it on LinkedIn
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, yes, I will repost that at a sentence or two, but it's not
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going to get a lot of visibility and I want you to understand
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that as well.
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That is what the data is showing, but the imagery is
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really taking a look at LinkedIn and it goes hand in hand with
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these videos that are becoming popular.
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In that video tab it is looking at LinkedIn not as a
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professional networking site, but as a professional version of
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Instagram, meaning you are visual first.
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You are visual first with photos, you are visual first
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with video.
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And this is the first time, as part of this 20 component audit
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that I do, where I am now saying , part of this 20 component
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audit that I do, where I am now saying one of those 20 things is
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are you publishing images?
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And that is my challenge to you .
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If you have not yet been publishing images, I want you to
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do an analysis in your newsfeed from your network.
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What sort of images are people publishing.
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Now I know that there's the selfie with the long explanation
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of they were a failure, they lost their money, and you don't
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necessarily need to do that right.
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You don't need to follow in the footsteps of quote-unquote
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LinkedIn influencers, but you need to find a groove in this
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new visual world that we live in , because obviously LinkedIn
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prefers it and people prefer it.
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They engage with you on it.
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So that's my homework for you.
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If you're already publishing images and you see that
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engagement, you will tend to want to publish more because you
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understand that visibility that it brings you.
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But if not, really take some time to look around.
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Now, interestingly enough, if you go in on any given LinkedIn
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profile, you might already know this, but just in case you don't
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.
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So if you go into any profile, you can scroll down, you'll see
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the top matter, you'll see highlights about, you'll see
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featured and then you'll see activity.
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If you look at the activity tab , it has these little bubbles
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posts, comments, videos, images.
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If they post all this stuff, if you go to images, you can
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actually see the images that people are publishing on any
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given profile and then for every one of those images, you can
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click through and see the original post.
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This is the research that I recommend you do Now.
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Graphically created images or just graphics like Canva
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graphics that doesn't count.
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That doesn't really resonate.
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What resonates is pictures of people, like iPhone type
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pictures.
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So that is my challenge for you is to if you're not publishing,
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you're still not sure.
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Well, that's not what LinkedIn is about.
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It's not about me publishing photos.
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I really want you to take a second look.
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Look at the content that pops up your newsfeed right as your
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initial data source, and then dig into those profiles that are
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publishing images that get a lot of engagement.
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Go in and look at all the different images they published
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and look for patterns, and I think what you're going to see
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is, yes, there are selfies, but there's also a lot of imagery
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when there are business gatherings, when there is an
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event, when they are meeting with a client, meeting with a
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colleague, and these are the things.
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At the end of the day, I always say and if you've been listening
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to this podcast, you probably heard me say it a thousand times
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but social media was made for people, not for businesses,
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right?
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And this brings social media back down to the human element.
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I think you know, with COVID and with the emergence of TikTok
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.
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There is a greater aspect of this human element, this raw
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authenticity, as we call it, that's been reintroduced back
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into social media and I think that's a good thing and I think,
00:18:31
yes, even on a network like LinkedIn, it is here and it is
00:18:35
here to stay, and those that tap into that will find a lot more
00:18:39
success than those that don't.
00:18:41
So I provided you the data, I provided you the reasoning, I
00:18:46
provided you sort of the steps to take to do the analysis.
00:18:51
All that's left is for you to implement and obviously I have
00:18:56
written Maximizing LinkedIn for Business Growth as a way to help
00:18:59
you implement.
00:19:01
But I really look forward to seeing you take action on this
00:19:04
podcast episode and if you did take action, or if you disagree,
00:19:07
or if you have further questions, need any
00:19:09
clarifications, please reach out to me.
00:19:11
I really want to make this podcast a two-way conversation.
00:19:13
Neil at neilschafercom I am the real Neil.
00:19:19
Folks, that's N-E-A-L.
00:19:19
Don't do the Starbucks barista misspelling of my name.
00:19:21
But yeah, I would just love to hear from you and I hope that
00:19:24
this inspires you to do more and to have better results on
00:19:27
LinkedIn and really on any other social network.
00:19:29
But I think this is really this professional version of
00:19:32
Instagram is really specific to LinkedIn, as you can imagine.
00:19:37
All right, well, that's a wrap on another edition of the your
00:19:40
Digital Marketing Coach podcast.
00:19:42
I wanna thank you for all your subscriptions, thank you for
00:19:45
those that continue to listen and those that have taken the
00:19:48
extra step to review this podcast.
00:19:50
If you have reviewed this podcast, please, please, make
00:19:53
sure you send me a screenshot so that I can personally thank you
00:19:55
for that review.
00:19:56
Also, if you haven't hit that subscribe button, the way that I
00:20:01
structure this podcast is one half of me doing solo episodes
00:20:04
like this and one half of doing interviews, and I've already
00:20:09
published interviews well into the future.
00:20:10
We have some great interviews coming up on a variety of topics
00:20:15
AI generated content and Google and SEO, best practices for
00:20:20
email marketing for small businesses, e-commerce marketing
00:20:23
, influencer marketing, behavior , science in marketing, clarity
00:20:28
with your messages.
00:20:29
It covers a wide range of topics, but really, my promise
00:20:32
to you is to deliver positive ROI with each episode, so I hope
00:20:36
you'll stay subscribed.
00:20:37
And well, all that's left to say is that's it for another
00:20:41
edition of your Digital Marketing Coach podcast.
00:20:52
Speaker 2: This is your Digital Marketing Coach Neal
00:20:55
podcastneilschafercom.
00:20:57
Get the show notes to this and 200 plus podcast episodes at
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00:21:07
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00:21:09
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00:21:17
See you next time on your Digital Marketing Coach.
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